Mixed-use, mixed-income development officially breaks ground in Chicago’s Rogers Park
95% of South Shore is African American. That is irrelevant. The skin color or ethnicity isn’t the issue with Affordable Housing — whether it’s subsidized with voucher’s or earmarked with lower rents for certain income groups. And your impression of South Shore is very misguided. South Shore had been making great strides in the same way Edgewater has. Anyone who has been to South Shore knows it is also a thriving community (or has been) with middle class families (as indicated in the Chicago Tribune article).
In addition, anyone who has lived in Edgewater over the past decade or two can also describe how the crime in Edgewater and South Shore were comparable, with gang activity rampant along Kenmore and Winthrop all the way to Uptown. South Shore is now losing middle class black families in part because of the excess of Affordable Housing and the changes it brings — per the Chicago Tribune article. The strides that South Shore has made (per the article) are being set back by an excess of Affordable Housing. This should not be surprising nor should such an observation be reflective of any racial or any ethnic group. (We should point out that this Affordable Housing could be housed entirely with white people and the results would be the same)
In addition, Edgewater’s crime rate is increasing alarmingly (per the Chicago Tribune’s crime map.) A couple years ago, Edgewater’s crime rate was at par with Lincoln Park. Earlier this year, Edgewater’s crime rate had exceeded Rogers Park’s crime rate. In short, this Affordable Housing project could have a very significant impact on Edgewater over the short term or long term.
Finally, as has been pointed out by multiple people many times in these posts — the problem with this building isn’t that it’s Affordable Housing. Myself and others support Affordable Housing. The problem is when a neighborhood is overwhelmed or a single building is dedicated with a high number /high rate requirement of Affordable Housing units. Most Affordable Housing units around the city fall under 20%. And this is reasonable. But his project has 60% that many reasonably assess will turn it into 100%. In short, many people in Edgewater don’t want to see the balance continue to tip backwards to a higher-crime neighborhood again that will squash the recent revitalization and drive potential businesses and residents away.
Mixed-use, mixed-income development officially breaks ground in Chicago’s Rogers Park
@Northside Res – Comparing Rogers Park or even Edgewater to South Shore is completely ridiculous . South Shore is 95% African-American, while both RP and Edgewater are far more ethnically diverse (and hopefully remain so as that is of great benefit to all), and both have substantially higher median incomes. You are just fear mongering here.
Uptown is the neighborhood with the highest concentration of subsidized housing on the north side (courtesy former Ald. Shiller). Even with that higher concentration, the property values in Uptown still exceed both RP and Edgewater.
As for the exterior, I like the metal panels used on the buildings on Devon – actually a good option for construction to keep costs in line and when used right can provide visual detail.
We will have to wait and see who rents there, but I doubt it’ll turn out as bad as you think. There are other examples of this around town to guide the management of this one properly.
Uptown TOD proposal at Broadway and Sunnyside breaks cover
In a word. Ugly. In an improperly hyphenated rhetorically driven word… Ug-Ly. Somebody stop this.
Alderman Cappleman needs to step in. Uptown is experiencing what Edgewater is experiencing: Bad architecture under the guise of economic development. Both Uptown and Edgewater are failing to realize that newness and novelty of new building designs tarnish very quickly and transform to blight very quickly. It’s a formula for disaster.
Zoning change denied for four-story Uptown apartment proposal
The design of the building is ridiculously sad anyway, it looks like a prision with balconies, hopefully this depressing box will never be built in Uptown!
Four-story TOD ready to replace long-vacant Uptown lot
You clearly haven’t heard about the renovations going on at Pensacola Place (See: https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/27/16050300/pensacola-place-the-montrose-uptown-chicago-construction), but that’s beside the point. Each small improvement like the one mentioned in this article is a step in the right direction. You usually don’t "reshape an area" all at once. It happens gradually over time in most cases. Lots of small thinking leads to big results.
Lathrop Homes redevelopment formally breaking ground this week
This is not meant to be mean; it’s a legitimate question: why would anyone pay market rate when you know that more than half your neighbors are paying significantly less than you are? I wouldn’t. No one is going to pay market rate to live there. It’ll look nice at first, then get run down and dangerous again in none too short a time. (Think about Uptown where there are zillions of examples of this.) Like it or hate it, Chicago is a segregated city, and we (the collective) must really like it that way. If we didn’t, we would have changed it a long time ago.
What are Chicago’s biggest transit mistakes and missed opportunities?
South Side Red Line Extension:
~East branch to Altgeld Gardens/130th
~~West branch via Halsted then 111th to Mt Greenwood
South Side Green Line Extension to Jackson Park (East) and Midway (West) or New Line along 55th Street
South West Side Orange Line Extension to Ford City Mall and then Oak Lawn 95th Street
West Side Pink Line Extension to Berwyn then Brookfield Zoo
West Side Blue Line Extension to Maywood, Bellwood and Villa Park
North West Side Blue Line "relocation":
from Logan Square
~"express" via I-90 median
~~"local" subway under Milwaukee Ave and then Touhy to Allstate Arena and O’Hare
North West Side Blue Line Extension to West Side Access ORD Terminal, then via Elk Grove Village, Schaumburg to Woodfield Mall
North West Side Brown Line Subway Extension to Jefferson Park
North Side Yellow Line Extension via old North Shore Skokie Valley right of way to Northbrook Court Mall
NorthSouth:
~~Lakefront Line
~~Ashland or Western Subway (both start at Howard down to 95th)
~~Cicero: Northbrook Ct (via NorthShore unused right of way Lincolnwood/Northpark) to Midway
Diagonal Streets (ALL except Milwaukee)
~~LightRail with Lane Separation and priority on the intersections
Circle Line(s):
~~ SMALL Cir North Ave to Ashland, down to Cermak, east to Lakefront, North to North Ave
~~BIG Cir Uptown/Lakefront to and via Brown Line to Jefferson Park, south via Cicero to 55/63rd St then east To Lakefront
COVERALLEXPRESWAYS from North to Roosvelt Aves and west to Forest Park
Use this to create public space: Parks and Rec. etc.
Suburban: ELECTRIFY all metro lines to make then faster and ecological (if Japan can survive winters so do we)
Through-lines!!! (close downtown rail yards and recultivate and reuse all that space downtown)
Three track operations on ALLLINES for Express service to fartest destinations in rush hours
Fast, suburb to suburb, Interurban Light Rail/ElecticMultipleUnit connections, every 30 min:
~ along/vincinity I-294/94 from Waukegan,IL to Homewood/Hammond, IN
~ along/vincinity I-290/355 from Palantine to Joliet
SouthShoreLines Expentions South and West and to MI
What are Chicago’s biggest transit mistakes and missed opportunities?
Bus only lanes on Michigan Ave during rush hour. Can’t tell you how many times my bus ride (#147) has been extended by 15-20 minutes due to traffic on Michigan Ave. BRT on Ashland, Western, and Sheridan Rd. from Evanston to Uptown.
Purple Line Express downtown during all its hours of operation.
Uptown transit-oriented apartment proposal returns with a new, glassier look
Even though the first design is slightly more conservative, it also fits in better with the neighborhood. The other one is a bit of a departure from what we would normally find in Uptown, which could be a refreshing addition. Either design is much better than the previous ones.
Uptown transit-oriented apartment proposal returns with a new, glassier look
I liked the first design better. This one is just plain dull. But, it is still great for uptown to have a development like this going onto that corner. Better than nothing!